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Tuesday, May 02, 2017

Sri Aurobindo anticipated present day human rights discourse

Debating Vivekananda: A Reader ed. by A. Raghuramaraju
DT McGetchin - Philosophy East and West, 2017
Reviewed by
Debating Vivekananda: A Reader. Edited by A. Raghuramaraju. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2014
The first debate is about the extent and limits of Vivekananda's impact. There are his classmates and political figures such as Nehru who argue for his importance. The strikingly contrarian voice in this otherwise flattering section is that of Delhi University historian Prabha Dixit, who challenges time-honored beliefs such as that Vivekananda's travels in the West were groundbreaking (p. 22); she points out that well over a century before Vivekananda visited them, Westerners such as Hastings and Jones and generations of German Indologists were interested in India and studied it extensively, and not just from a closet in England, as James Mill advocated in his History of British India (1817). She rather argues that Vivekananda had only passing interest as an exotic new personality, a plaything of the rich. This question of extent of interest is always hard to measure. Perhaps it is best to be conservative and assume low numbers and influence unless one has non-anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Religious and missionary interests can be notoriously unreliable as they may be promoting their agenda.
Another issue Dixit confronts is a subtheme throughout the volume, the notion that Vivekananda was working behind the scenes for Indian independence, secretly inspiring revolutionaries. Rather, Dixit argues, Vivekananda sat on the sidelines, refusing to get involved in politics, which was his official position, and apparently not just a clever dodge to avoid imperial entanglements with the authorities. Likewise, his disciples followed his lead and, Dixit argues, did largely nothing during the decades of struggle through independence, which is not unprecedented if one considers the turn that Sri Aurobindo Ghose made toward introspection after his 1908 trial. If Vivekananda was conservative, supporting the status quo and providing a foundation for Hindu nationalism, cultivating division rather than brotherhood, despite some of his rhetoric (p. 39), what was the relation between religion and activism? The degree to which Vivekananda did help develop an India lobby and networks that helped Indians like the Ghadar (revolt) movement during the First World War is certainly worthy of further study.

OOK] Hindu Images and their Worship with special reference to Vaisnavism: A philosophical-theological inquiry

JJ Lipner - 2017 -
Hinduism comprises perhaps the major cluster of religio-cultural traditions of India, and it can play a valuable role in helping us understand the nature of religion and human responses to life. Hindu image-worship lies at the core of what counts for Hinduism–up-front

The Royal Nation and Global Intellectual History: Monarchic Routes to Conceptualizing National Unity
M Banerjee - Transnational Histories of the'Royal Nation', 2017
... The politician Aurobindo Ghose (1872–1950) is representative of this irony, as (in a dramatic sketch authored around 1910) he subordinated the national monarch to the will of the people-nation: ... 56. Aurobindo Ghose (2003), The Complete Works of Sri Aurobindo, vol. ...

It does seem quite idle and meaningless to say or write anything that adds little value to the subject in mind; and as the Mother has said so pertinently, when you do not have anything worthwhile to speak or write remain silent. The best homage we can pay to Sri  Aurobindo in our onward journey towards a higher and higher level of consciousness is to read carefully and with attention all that he has written and said.  We shall find answers to all we need to know. Let us concentrate all our energies and consecrate all of ourselves, in each and every part of our being, to the  Mother’s second and final coming, which can be termed as ‘the tangible sign of the sure  Victory over the adverse forces’  (KR Srinivasa Iyengar:  On the Mother, 4th  rev ed, 1994,p.857 )
Arup Basu

Contents Sincerity Rig  Veda - Gayatri Mandala Apree  Sukta  -  Apree Devata Upanishads – II Sri  Aurobindo:  The Ideal  Teacher The Emergent Spiritual Evolution The Ideal of Human Unity: Some Reflections Sri  Aurobindo:  The Prophet of Nationalism — (II) Roots of  Violence — Negating the Individual’s Self-Determination in Education: Alternative Insights from Sri  Aurobindo Towards Integral Prosperity: A Yogic Paradigm A Commentary on Sri Aurobindo’s Theory of Poetics Notes On  Authors Mother Srimat Anirvan Debashish Banerji Prema Nandakumar Alok Pandey Aparna Banerjee Anurag Banerjee Anirban Ganguly M.S. Srinivasan Rudrashis Datta Cover : Painting  by  Giles Herdman

Aparna Banerjee “The perfection of the individual in a perfected society or eventually in a perfected humanity understanding perfection always in a relative and progressive sense — is the inevitable aim of Nature.” — Sri Aurobindo The Ideal of Human Unity  does not offer the vision of a future human society that will be based on a shared oneness in which differences between individual human beings and groups will get erased. Sri Aurobindo with his deep knowledge of history was aware how it is very natural for us to get involved in strife based on group differences and claim for separateness of groups on that basis. Living in society with a moderate amount of tolerance towards others is necessary that man cannot avoid. But  as long as it is a small group, the sharing of similar ideas, customs and ideals as well as language and way of life, makes for a better harmony between individuals and collectivities. As we aim to form larger communities, this becomes more and more difficult. Writing at the beginning of the twentieth century, Sri  Aurobindo already notes correctly that the material advancement due largely to scientific discoveries “…have made our earth so small that its vastest kingdoms seem now no more than the provinces of a single country.”1  Today the processes of globalisation are fast changing the world; this is something everyone has to deal with consciously or unconsciously. In some sense the globe is definitely shrinking. The widespread availability of satellite television, the internet with the virtual ‘social network’ services, have narrowed down national and cultural distances, making interpersonal communication across countries and cultures move to a level of global nearness.  At a different level, there is an increasing demand and consumption of global, cultural goods — food, dress, cosmetics as well as more options for immigration to the developed countries. Pursuing education and earning better pay in a foreign land are common options now. S´raddha-   April 2017 [...]

The mistake lies in the fact that when policies are approved as advantageous to all members of a cultural group that has, so far, been marginalised, they actually end up favouring some members over fact, minority groups can oppress their own internal minorities like the poor, women etc. 
Secondly, cultural toleration of minority groups should not be unconditional; for it may hamper the development of a feeling of common identity as against a group identity based upon difference.  
Thirdly, multiculturalism often manifests the tendency to view people from other cultures as more different than they actually are. It is true that today we live within the same country while accepting at the same time, sharp differences among groups within it. These are hybrid cultures that apparently seem to overcome to some extent the rigidity of cultural boundaries. But, in so far as there are other cultures that are perceived as different and normatively judged to be wrong, the conflict between them will continue. 
Fourthly, multicultural studies have a tendency to emphasise the internal homogeneity of cultural groups, overlooking the possibility of disagreement among members about accepting prevalent normative principles in the face of emerging new ideas. 
Fifthly, the ideal of equality of all cultural groups is not an easy and uniform idea that is acceptable to all. There remains always the scope for conflicting interpretations. Thus, access to education for all may be an ideal of equality; but, if we ask whether higher education should be open to all, there is the possibility of endless debates (especially in a country like India where castebased reservation policy for facilitating access of human resources to all, is operative). [...]

Sri Aurobindo, despite the possibility of being described as an idle dreamer, is very much aware of the difficulties that stand in the way of his ideal of human unity. His erudition in history — both national and international, cannot be doubted; he knows that we are still not ready to embrace a unity that accommodates both unity and difference. Any system can work only if it corresponds with people’s sentiments. But there are many forces working against this of which national and international egoism are the foremost. A religion of humanty finds its answer in a deeper brotherhood which has its clue in a ‘yet unfounded law of love’. But until this latent driving force becomes manifest in men, we have to keep looking for free human unity intellectually. References 1. Sri  Auroindo, The Human cycle, The Ideal of Human Unity War and Self-Determination [...]

Roots of  Violence — Negating the Individual’s Self-Determination in Education:  Alternative Insights from Sri  Aurobindo Anirban Ganguly 
Some Initial Thoughts  —  Prologue: Writing ‘A  Preface on National Education’  in his philosophical monthly Arya  nearly nine decades ago Sri Aurobindo formulated a definition of what he perceived to be a ‘true and living education’. Such an education according to him had to definitely take into consideration and work out certain fundamental perspectives; it had to take into account ‘the individual in his commonness and in his uniqueness, the nation or people and universal humanity’1. He further continued defining a ‘true and living education’ by stating that such an education must ensure a full scope of the inherent potential in the individual to develop and at the same time it ought to help the individual enter into a ‘right relation with the life, mind and soul of the people to which he belongs and [also] with that great total life, mind and soul of humanity of which he himself is a unit and his people or nation a living, a separate and yet inseparable member.’2 A dual aspect emerges from these observations, one, that the individual ought to be treated as what he is i.e. as ‘an individual’, Sri  Aurobindo opposes here the concept of an industrial-education mindset which merely looks at the pupil as a uniform entity and encourages him to undergo the rigours of a uniform syllabus, following a routine method, to achieve a routine objective neglecting the individual’s propensities, inclinations and needs – treating him as a product to be tailor-made to market requirements and brands – overlooking what has been termed as the individual’s  svadharma  – ‘truth of one’s inner movement’. This approach therefore obstructs the right working out of one’s own law of action –  svadharma su-anusthitah3  providing little space for variations and S´raddha-   April 2017

Similar to the ‘spiritual embryo’  Sri  Aurobindo’s metaphysical presupposition regarding the individual refuses to see man as simply a mechanical element or commodity but instead as ‘a portion of the Divinity enwrapped in mind and body, a conscious manifestation in Nature of the universal self and spirit [and] at the summit of his ascent man is bound to rise to something greater than his physical, vital and mental personalities, to his spiritual being. And therein lies the supreme manifestation of the soul of man…’ his ultimate  raison d’√™tre ‘his real  paramartha and highest  purusartha’ [Jugal Kishore Mukherjee,  Principles and Goals of Integral Education, 2005, p.10.] Education, Sri  Aurobindo contends, must give the individual that scope of self-fulfilment. He was also in a sense anticipating the present day human rights discourse albeit from a different perspective and stressing the aspect of a cooperative-fulfilment as opposed to a competitive one. 
It would be appropriate to point out here that eight decades after Sri  Aurobindo had written this the Earth Charter-2000 while placing as one of the principal demands the need to ‘promote a culture of tolerance, non-violence and peace’ emphasised that it was necessary to ‘Recognise that peace is the wholeness created by right relationships with oneself, other persons, other cultures, other life, Earth, and the larger whole of which all are a part.’(16.f) This then is to be the initiating vision for developing a culture of peace through education and of an education that recognise the intrinsic worth of the individual. [Source:]

owards Integral Prosperity: A Yogic Paradigm 
M.S. Srinivasan 
Abstract: We are as a species in a stage of crucial evolutionary transition towards a new cycle of evolution in the non-material, moral and spiritual dimension. Economics, business and management cannot escape from this evolutionary imperative.  We need a new paradigm of economics and management based on the inner growth of human beings.  Here comes the importance of the Indian science of yoga, which can perhaps provide the path that will lead to the higher evolution of the economic, commercial and industrial life of humanity. The main objective of this article is to arrive at a new vision of management based on the principles of yoga. The article provides a conceptual and strategic framework for this higher evolution of business and economics based on the concept of integral prosperity. Key Perspectives:  science of accelerated evolution; evolving corporate; yogic paradigm; vision of integral prosperity; strategic path. 
Introduction: In our modern age, we have achieved tremendous growth in our external life, mainly in the material, economic and technological dimensions. In this curve of progress, we have perhaps reached the saturation point.  Any further growth in this direction is ecologically and psychologically unsustainable. Future growth has to be in the non-material, internal, psychological and spiritual dimensions, which lead to inner fulfilment of human beings. This inner change, transformation and fulfilment are likely to be the paradigm of the future. So, in order to survive and prosper in this future world, individuals, groups and institutions, including Business and Management, have to think out how to prepare and adapt themselves to this future change. What is the new paradigm which will help us as individuals and groups to steer ourselves successfully into the future world? [...]

So in the integral view, yoga means neither the physical asanas of hathayoga nor an exclusively spiritual approach based on a world-denying or life-rejecting contemplation. In this approach the path of yoga is defined as a process or a science by which we can raise our consciousness from the ego-centric mind with reason as the highest faculty to an egoless and universal consciousness of our own highest spiritual self, beyond mind, with higher faculties beyond reason. Yoga is the process by which this ascent to the higher consciousness can be realised through a path of conscious and accelerated inner evolution. This inner evolution proceeds through a rapid awakening of the ethical, aesthetic and spiritual faculties in the human being and a progressive elevation of the motives of action from the physical-vital to mental-moral and further on to the spiritual levels. The yogic approach means an approach based on the principles of this broader evolutionary vision of yoga. The aim of this yogic approach is to create a management culture, which leads to this higher evolution of the individual and the collectivity in the psychological and spiritual dimension and a harmonious self-expression of the fruits of this inner evolution in the outer life, enriching the quality of the corporate life as a whole. S´raddha-   April 2017 

The New Indian Express-30-Apr-2017
... of Christ, the exile of Krishna in Brindavan and the colloquy with Arjuna on the field of Kuruksetra,” scribbled Sri Aurobindo in a notebook way back in 1913.

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Sunday, April 30, 2017

Vivekananda evangelising Hinduism; Radhakrishnan Christianizing Hinduism

To Be, or Not to Be, Bengali: via @thewire_in
modernity also instills newer forms of prejudice among people. History brings in fresher reasons and instances of prejudice. Partition, for instance, managed to inflict a range of prejudices on the Indian side of Bengal. How many Bengalis on the Indian side remember the exiled nawab from Lucknow, Wajid Ali Shah’s contribution to the style of the Kolkata biryani and the Bengali kurta? How many would acknowledge and appreciate the mix of Sufi Islam, Vaishnavism and Buddhism in the Baul tradition, in Lalon Fokir’s scathing Kabir-esque critique of the caste system? How many would question Vivekananda, like Ashis Nandy did, for transforming his guru, Ramakrishna’s heterogeneous mysticism into a missionary movement, thus evangelising Hinduism?? The denial of history, or uncritical eulogy of cultural figures, prompted by religious and national pride, can only mean a rather hollow way to be Bengali.
Why @sagarikaghose mentions Rammohan Roy, Vivekananda, Tagore, Chaitanya, and Ramakrishna but forgets Sri Aurobindo?

The way @sagarikaghose paints a playful image of religion has echoes in what Sri Aurobindo had jotted down playfully

Manash Firaq Bhattacharjee teaches poetry at Ambedkar University, New Delhi. 

Unfortunately, a person I admired a lot, and met a few times when I was a child, Radhakrishnan, is partially responsible for the Christianizing of Hinduism and of Indian philosophy. Advaita is not the paradigm of either Hinduism or Indian philosophy as it came much later, at the fag end of when the activity of Indian philosophy with vicious debates among schools and within schools came to an end and since then Indian philosophy has become stagnant as your dogmatic statements clearly indicate.

Apr 30, 2017

[What was it that Lacan did if not repeat Freud, making Freud very different even as... rigorous fidelity to Freud?]

[philosophy doesn’t teach you one specific skill–it teaches you how to learn, think critically, choose and flourish]

Subjective impulses, feelings, or experiences can't be put before others for verification. So scientific/philosophical investigation valid.

Feel Philosophy: In struggles we can very well come together and aid each other

Savitri Era: Savitri Era Party pleads guilty of simplifying Sri Aurobindo #Hindutva #BJP #RSS #Modi #Evolution

Savitri Era Party opposed ban as [does not bode well for a liberal culture: reduce complex arguments to sound bites]

Pitting Sri Aurobindo against Modi amounts to simplifying though Rejection of complexity is a sign of Fundamentalism

the Orchid and the rOse: Spirit within is the true guide to health and healing #SriAurobindo

The way Sri Aurobindo defines the character and functions of Varuna or even the qualities of a Brahmin, it's sublime

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End of History?~I

The Statesman-22-Apr-2017
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Looking back into history

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Daily Mail-18-Apr-2017
The original founders were Sri Aurobindo and his younger brother, Barindra. Both, along with 47 other accused stood trial for the Alipur bomb blast case or the ...

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Odisha Parba 2017 begins at India Gate in New Delhi

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Thursday, April 20, 2017

Tagore's shift to universal humanism was subsequent

Swapan Dasgupta
Tapan Raychaudhuri's study of Bengal's responses to the West in the 19th century dealt with three intellectual stalwarts - Bhudeb Mukherjee, Bankim Chandra Chatterjee and Swami Vivekananda. All three focused on issues that related to Hindus as Hindus. To them, modernity did not mean discarding the Hindu inheritance but reshaping (and in Bhudeb's case rediscovering) the Hindu inheritance.
In the realms of political activism too, the movement against the Partition of Bengal had explicitly Hindu overtones - take Aurobindo Ghose and Bipin Chandra Pal as foremost examples - and this religio-political aspect was embraced by Rabindranath Tagore. Tagore's shift to universal humanism was a subsequent development and his trenchant critique of Mahatma Gandhi's non-cooperation movement did not endear him to most fellow Bengalis. However, his iconic status, particularly after he won the Nobel prize, insulated him from any politically-inspired criticism. Arguably, C.R. Das was an exception but his legacy of communal power-sharing collapsed rapidly after his untimely death. From the late 1920s till Independence, there was often very little to distinguish the Bengal Congress from the Hindu Mahasabha. In spite of the parallel attraction of Marxism, the upper echelons of bhadralok society did not shun explicitly Hindu mobilization. The Hindu Mahasabha boasted of the involvement of intellectual stalwarts such as Shyama Prasad Mookerjee, Nirmal Chandra Chatterjee and even Ramananda Chatterjee.

 The Spiritual Nationalism & Human Unity: approach taken by Sri Aurobindo in Politics
D Banerjee
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On 20 Apr 2017, at 09:12, priyedarshi jetli wrote:


I am not promoting logicism. Some logicists believed that you can construct all of mathematics from logic. The Intuitionists don't accept this. Neither do I. My point was a simple general one, logic is mainly about inferences and has no content, therefore free of ontology or epistemology. This is what alternative systems of logic have in common. Further, as far as I know most systems of logic can be translated into each other or shown to be extentions of classical logic. Of course it takes some doing to accomplish this.

Logicism has failed. No (reasonably serious) logicians would assume it. We know that elementary arithmetic cannot be deduced from any logic. If fact, we can prove in arithmetic that arithmetic does not follow from logic. Russell and Whitehead claims that 1+1=2 can be proved in their logical system, but they assumed a part of set theory, which assumes much more than arithmetic.

We know also that arithmetic is Turing equivalent. It realizes all computations, and this lead to the problem of recovering physics from a statistics on all computations see from inside (that is: structured by the modal logic of self-references imposed by the Incompleteness Phenomenon).


My point is more technical: if we are machine, there is no primary physical reality, only a first person locally sharable infinities of number's "dreams". It makes me say that in Occident, we have to backtrack to Pythagoras and Plato (and the neopythagoreans + the neoplatonists) in the field of (scientific/modest) theology. I appreciate the antique greeks mainly because they do not oppose mysticism and rationalism. 
My feeling, coming from my interest in buddhist mahayana is that in India, there has been always a bigger open-mindness about immaterialism, or, to put it in another way, a bigger skepticism toward the material explanations. India, and China for a long time, seem to not have separated rationalism and religion/theology as much as Europa. But of course, all civilisation has its dark period and witches hunts.



In today's quantum mechanics, all matter (some of which is perceived directly by senses and called classical) is made up of quantum particles.  A quantum particle is said to be a packet of de Broglie phase waves, each of which is supposed to have a speed greater than that of light in vacuum.  Thus the phase wave is a mathematical abstraction, it is non-material in that you cannot perceive it by senses.  So, one may say all matter is made of ideas.  


Dear all,

     I would like to suggest something here, so many on this forum are attempting to explain the infinite and infinitesimal complexities of matter and spirit, body, mind, soul, consciousness and the unconscious. And Deepak seems to want to throw all that aside and suggests that nothing of matter subtle or gross actually exists, except for consciousness which according to him is all one non personal oneness of bliss. My own opinion is that neither of these approaches is being realistic, and I'll try to explain why.
     First, Deepak's theories make no sense when put to any test, he postulates that nothing in the world exists, but we are all aware that it does, even if transitory and temporary we know something is there, we are there, the body is there, mind, universe, stars and sun, oceans etc. And we know that we didn't create all of that, something else must be the source. So it's nice to think that all phenomena are our own creation as he states, but obviously something else is there to discover.
     Then the physicists and other scientists are so expert at breaking down the complex functioning of that phenomena which Deepak is claiming does not exist, that is true. But how to actually empirically explain the origins of such phenomena to get to the actual root of it? Obviously this cannot be done through speculation, why? Because our minds and intellect used for speculation are themselves products of the material process itself, and the product cannot fully explain the source, logically. Therefore Deepak's attempt to simplify things. But again that falls short, he's only partly right after all, true that consciousness is more subtle than matter, superior to matter, subjective. But we ourselves as consciousness are not the source of all matter, else we would not be "bamboozled" by it as he likes to say, one cannot be bamboozled by something he has himself created, not possible if he is the source of that.
      That does leave the one logical explanation, and which I believe Bhakti Madhava Puri has been trying to explain further, that we ourselves as limited subjective conscious entities are ourselves objects of a greater unlimited subjective consciousness, infinite absolute consciousness which is the source of both individual consciousness and matter both subtle and gross. That's my conclusion anyway, it makes sense in explaining reality, I welcome any comments on this. I do have admiration for the subtle complexities of all the physicists' and philosophers' explanations on this forum but this is my own contribution, I think it makes sense. In this world we are simply the conscious agent, the minds, bodies, even thoughts, we are not the source of all these, they are under control of and the property of something else, someone else. To accept that idea is to me the key.

Regards, Eric Reyes

Proofs apply to mathematical theorems not to things like matter or consciousness. And even in mathematics if something cannot be proven it does not mean that it is not true. Take Fermat's last theorem for example. It took 300 years to prove it. It is like saying that if no one had ever climbed the peak of Mount Everest it did not exist. The metaphoric statement of the type Deepak Chopra makes is meaningless. There is a very old fallacy that is commonly used:  No one has proven that God does not exist. Therefore, God exists. It is an obvious fallacy. In any case the burden of proof lies on the one who accepts the existence of God or a non-material consciousness for that matter and not on those who do not accept them. The fallacy is surely obvious to those who are committing them as well. They are a disguise for covering up the issue. 

The issue is that once stated as alternative hypotheses, idealism, dualism, materialism and perhaps other isms regarding the mind body problem are dogmas. None of these hypotheses can be proven and all attempts to prove them beg the question. But among dogmas we can choose the one that seems most plausible to us. To me the materialist or physicalist dogma is the most plausible. There is no emergent mental (non-physical) world, there is no non-physical or mystical forces that causally act on the physical world. The physical is causally closed. To deny this people often equate 'physics of the day' with 'everything that is physical'. I need not spend  time to dispel this fallacious equivocation. We need only reflect on the statement that "everything is in principle explainable physically."


Dear Siegfried,

Thanks for the comments. It seems that you agree that the quantum classical divide is not about spatial dimension in the way often talked about. I agree that the quantum level is the level of the individual quantum of action. So very often the amount of energy involved ins small. However, if we take a Bose mode as an indivisible quantum of action (as contemporary field theory generally does) rather than the notional single photon or phonon or whatever, then there is actually no limit to the energy in a quantum of action. It will be h x frequency x the notional ‘number of particles' quantum number. So a military LASER beam or a seismic mode that informs us of the chemical composition of the centre of the earth may have huge energy. 

I agree that uncertainty is not present in the Schr√∂dinger equation. But that is just a bit of writing on a piece of paper. A wave equation is not a mode or entity. It does not ‘evolve’. As an outsider it seems to me that the term ‘wave function’ encourages the belief that somehow the wave equation is a description of a mode. As I understand it, any given wave equation is a look up table for the probabilities of actualisation of a slew of modes with certain common parameters. A mode appears to have some sort of dynamic field structure with values that relate in spacetime according to complex harmonic math but being an indivisible action I can see no legitimate concept of ‘progression from state to state’. The more I get to know about modern physics and the more I talk to physicists (including Basil Hiley who was kind enough to give me some private tuition) the more it seems to me that the traditional ‘interpretations’ are all metaphysically unsound and counter to the basic concept of a theory of indivisible dynamic units. Douglas Bilodeau wrote a very nice article in 1996 in J Consc Studies to that effect. He also makes some remarks in the article about the conflation of different meanings of ‘quantum’ and ‘classical’. These are probably rather unhelpful terms that lead to misapprehensions. I think Leibniz does better in simply distinguishing descriptions of individual actions and description s of aggregate mechanics.

I am not quite sure why you say that the quantum of action does not determine the quantised mode. My understanding of recent developments in condensed matter physics is that the mode is considered the quantum of action.

As far as I can see uncertainty remains an essential feature of a world constituted by discrete instantiations of symmetric continuous dynamic laws, just for basic logical reasons, as pointed to by Leibniz.

Best wishes


Thursday, April 13, 2017

No man can surpass his own time

The True Meaning of Spirituality — Sri Aurobindo

Free Press Journal-14-Mar-2017
It must therefore be emphasised that spirituality is not a high intellectuality, not idealism, not an ethical turn of mind or moral purity and austerity, not religiosity or ...

UP Polls: Has The “Hindoo” Worm Finally Turned?

Sri Aurobindo, as early as in 1905, had said: “We have to create strength where it did not exist before; we have to change our natures, and become new men ...

Stretch many muscles at once

The New Indian Express-10-Mar-2017
... to the abdomen and back. Anshu Vyas Seetharaman is a yoga and fitness trainer at Sri Aurobindo Society, Bengaluru. (110 Gangadhara Chetty Road, Ulsoor).

Madurai Today

The Hindu-10-Mar-2017
Sri Aurobindo Mira Universal School: Annual Day celebration, S. Thangasamy, Vice-Chancellor, Tamil Nadu Teachers' Education University, and Karu.

FotoFest Biennial 2018: a closer look at contemporary India

Architectural Digest India-09-Mar-2017
... who was in Delhi for a talk organised by Sri Aurobindo Centre for Arts and Communication in collaboration with the Foundation for Indian Contemporary Art.

CSI India: A collector of memories revisits old crimes and ...
There is a reminder of the case of revolutionary-turned-philosopher Sri Aurobindo, who was sent to prison and later acquitted in the Alipore Bomb Case in 1908.


Pakistan Observer-08-Mar-2017
Sri Aurobindo said, “There is an ascending evolution in nature which goes from the stone to the plant, from the plant to the animal, from animal to man. Because ...

A Powerful Intellectual

Daily Excelsior-08-Mar-2017
His discourses on philosophy of Vedanta, Upnashids, Sri Aurobindo, Swami Vivekananda and his 'Dharmarth Trust' promote Hinduism as world revered religion ...

Are our campuses under siege?

The Hindu-02-Mar-2017
... sacred texts, shastras, in Kalidasa's poem 'Meghaduta' (Cloud Messenger), apart from the speeches and writings of Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo.

Aurobindo Centre to hold seminar on management values

Summary: The Sri Aurobindo Centre for Advanced Research (SACAR) is organising a one-day seminar on boardroom wisdom and corporate excellence here ...

Left believes in selective freedom of expression: DU professor

However, according to Saroj Kumar Rath, assistant professor of History at the Sri Aurobindo College (Eve), University of Delhi, freedom of expression cannot be ...

Multi-benefit of sitting with a twist

The New Indian Express-01-Mar-2017
BENGALURU: This is a simple sitting posture with a twist. Let's get ready for it. STEPS: Sit on the floor with your legs extended and fold your right knee so that ...

Yoga workshop

The Tribune-01-Mar-2017
Sri Aurobindo College of Commerce and Management organised a 'Cleanliness and Serve with Love' camp. In all, 30 volunteers participated in the camp, along ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Times of India

Pondy firm bags a share of Beauty and the Beast enchantment

Times of India-28-Feb-2017
"There is nothing artificial about her. That appeals to our Pondy sensibilities of developing the core inner self which is what Sri Aurobindo Ashram and Auroville ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hindu

A walk to soak in the heritage of former French enclave

The Hindu-26-Feb-2017
... the fabric of Puducherry. They stopped by the French Social Club, Manakula Vinayagar Temple, Sri Aurobindo Ashram and ended their trail at the Consulate.
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hindu

Exhibiting creativity, Pondy fest showcases homegrown brands

... of UPASANA which is into organic fabrics, the Sri Aurobindo Hand Made Paper ... of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram, antique furniture outfit Geethanjali, Sri Lakshmi ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Indian Express

In Their Footsteps

The Indian Express-23-Feb-2017
French artist Mirra Alfassa Richard, known as the Mother, was a great mystic who worked with the Indian philosopher Sri Aurobindo. Another section in the ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Economic Times

Enter the zone of tranquility: Why you must plan a visit to the French ...

Economic Times-22-Feb-2017
Soak in some peace and quiet at Sri Aurobindo Ashram: Nearby Beach Road, this is the place where people from across the globe come in search of peace at ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hindu

Expo to showcase products of UT residents

The Hindu-21-Feb-2017
... Sri Aurobindo Handmade Paper, Aquarelles Water Colour Studio, Puducherry Khadi and Village Industries Board, Sri Lakshmi Jewellery, Naturellement, ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from

Swami Dayanand Saraswati Jayanti: 7 Things to know about the ...
President of India, S. Radhakrishnan and Sri Aurobindo went on to call the philosopher as one of the “Makers of Modern India.” As we celebrate Swami ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The New Indian Express

Education is not just about math

The New Indian Express-20-Feb-2017
In this context, the educational vision of Mirra Alfassa, known as the Mother, which she implemented at Sri Aurobindo International Centre of Education has ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hindu

This fair offers much more than books

The Hindu-18-Feb-2017
For devotional content, the expo has stalls by the TTD publications, Bhavan's, Bharatiya Kala Prakasan, Sri Aurobindo Society, Ramakrishna Vivekananda ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Millennium Post

Delhi Govt Recommends CBI Probe Into Shifting Of Mirambika School

Millennium Post-16-Feb-2017
"It seems prima facie there was collusion between Sri Aurobindo Education Society and officials of DoE and hence requires criminal investigation of the entire ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The New Indian Express

A man transformed

The New Indian Express-15-Feb-2017
During the freedom struggle,Sri Aurobindo was jailed in 1908 in the Alipore bomb case. After his acquittal in 1909, he came out of prison a changed man.
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hitavada

School Edn Deptt and Sri Auribindo Society sign MoU to improve ...

The Hitavada-14-Feb-2017
School Edn Deptt and Sri Auribindo Society sign MoU to improve quality of ... Under the MoU, the Sri Aurobindo Society will be implementing its Rupantar ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Zee News

This flower will inspire you to PROGRESS

Zee News-14-Feb-2017
According to Sri Aurobindo's disciple, The Mother, each flower represents an attribute. She loved flowers and attached spiritual significance to nature's most ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Little India

The Yoga Gurus Behind India's Hottest Consumer Products

Little India-12-Feb-2017
Sant Shri Asaramjibapu Ashram, Sri Aurobindo Ashram, and BAPS Swaminarayan Sanstha are other organizations that not only cater to the spiritual needs of ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Swarajya

When Will They Purge Indian History Of Political Correctness And ...

From Swami Vivekananda's Yoga-Vedanta revival, to Lokmanya Tilak's back to the Gita message, to Sri Aurobindo and his honouring of the Vedas, to the Ram ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hindu

Michel Danino

The Hindu-11-Feb-2017
I am reading Sri Aurobindo's Letters on Yoga , probably for the fifth or sixth time (but the first time in the recent four-volume edition). It is essential knowledge, ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The Hindu

The book in my hand

The Hindu-11-Feb-2017
I read a lot of books on philosophy. But with preparations for the current parliamentary session taking most of my time in the past month, I have not picked up a ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Patheos (blog)

Seven Essential Books on the Spirituality of the Desert Fathers and ...

Patheos (blog)-10-Feb-2017
The headwaters of the Christian contemplative and mystical tradition — aside from the Bible, of course — is the wisdom of the Desert Fathers and Mothers, ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Hindustan Times

On the cards at Delhi Literature Festival: demonetisation and ...

Hindustan Times-10-Feb-2017
Bangladeshi author,Taslima Nasrin, speaks at the Jaipur Literature Festival 2017 in Jaipur. Nasrin will be speaking at the Delhi Literature Festival on February ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Geo News, Pakistan

KLF 2017: 10 books we can't wait to get hold of this weekend

Geo News, Pakistan-08-Feb-2017
This group comprises Indian leaders Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, Sri Aurobindo, Anand Coomarswamy, Maulana Azad, and Swami Ranganathananda, ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from The New Indian Express

A good pose for athletes

The New Indian Express-08-Feb-2017
STEPS: From Sukhasan simple sitting position maintain the folded left leg in front so that the left lower leg from knee to ankle is parallel (or almost parallel) to the ...

Mirambika students should return to old campus: Delhi govt report

The Indian Express-08-Feb-2017
The report states the school, which was on a 9.84-acre campus in Sri Aurobindo Ashram till mid-2015 but was shifted to an adjacent building that was much ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from NYOOOZ

Delhi government suspends director of Education department for ...

The management had said the move was necessary because the land on which the school building was made was, in fact, leased to the Sri Aurobindo ...

Today In Baptist Ben-Oppery

The American Conservative-08-Feb-2017
De Chardin, Sri Aurobindo, Jean Gebser, Pitirim Sorokin and others foresaw the emergence of an integral consciousness, which can “see” Unity amidst the ...
Story image for Sri Aurobindo from Swarajya

Study Of Hindu Culture: The Misplaced Theories Of Western ...

Judging from the interview, the proposed book by Dr Parpola seems to be providing the proverbial old wine in new bottle. His scholarship is subsumed by his ...
The Zeitgeist (spirit of the age or spirit of the time) is the dominant set of ideals and beliefs that motivate the actions of the members of a society in a particular period in time. For example, the Zeitgeist of modernism motivated the creation of new forms in the fields of architecture, art, and fashion during much of the 20th century. Zeitgeist is a powerful force embedded in the individuals of a society.[1] The German word Zeitgeist, translated literally as "time mind" or "time spirit", is often attributed to the philosopher Georg Hegel, but he never actually used the word. In his works such as Lectures on the Philosophy of History, he uses the phrase der Geist seiner Zeit (the spirit of his time)—for example, "no man can surpass his own time, for the spirit of his time is also his own spirit."[2]
Other philosophers who were associated with such ideas include Herder and Spencer and Voltaire.[1] The concept contrasts with the Great Man theory popularized by Thomas Carlyle, which sees history as the result of the actions of heroes and geniuses.
Hegel believed that art reflected, by its very nature, the culture of the time in which it is created. Culture and art are inextricable because an individual artist is a product of his or her time and therefore brings that culture to any given work of art. Furthermore, he believed that in the modern world it was impossible to produce classical art, which he believed represented a "free and ethical culture", which depended more on the philosophy of art and theory of art, rather than a reflection of the social construct, or Zeitgeist in which a given artist lives.[3]

In the analysis of the arts and culture, the concept of a "spirit of the age" or zeitgeist may be problematic as a tool for analysis of periods which are sociy or culturally fragmented and diverse.[4]Photo exhibition on Matrimandir begins at Auroville on Thursday

The Hindu-07-Feb-2017
Ms. Hadnagy first came to the Sri Aurobindo Ashram and visited Auroville in 1973. Nurtured by the special atmosphere of some early sadhaks, thanks to a ...